Café sûr le pont (Coffee on the bridge) is the very first iteration of an open call to discuss highly relevant topics in regard to the Cardano Voltaire Era. In particular, to talk about the evolution of the community, possibilities, visions, and ideas.

At Café sûr le pont, the greater Cardano community gather to engage in an informal conversations on a variety of timely topics. This conversation is not intended to drive action items or agendas, but rather to open up silos, bring the entire community together on a personal and human level, to put faces to names, and connect people and ideas.

Voltaire

The subject being discussed is broadly “Voltaire” - an “era of Cardano will provide the final pieces required for the Cardano network to become a self-sustaining system” (Cardano Roadmap).

Summary Keywords

The SUMMARY KEYWORDS from this meetings transcript :

community, people, create, values, archetypes, commons, question, catalyst, happening, important, intention, blockchain, build, environment, play, conversation, world, system

Speakers

Ian, Heinz, Dean, Noah, Oscar, Felix, Len, Mihaela Ulieru, Steve, Nick, Aharon, Ernesto, Gary, Yoram, Nori, Ricardo

Nori - Welcome

Welcome everybody to the first edition of the Cafe sur le pont.

Cafe sur le pont is being held by a new experimental initiative called bridge builders.

Events like this are kind are the very first iteration of what we want to start and what we want to do. We’re still evolving. We hope to be a small or growing community of people who love doing these kinds of things and connecting people connecting organizations having conversations.

We’re kicking this off because Cardano is entering the era of Voltaire and Decentralized Governance and we are looking at ways in which IOG can step aside and handover a $1.5 billion treasury to community control. That is something that nobody knows how to do yet. So, we are here to figure this out. We are not here to make decisions, raise action items or things like that, but rather to have conversations. To break down silos to meet each other as people.

Please enter this space with open hearts and open minds. Nobody is here in any official capacity. We’re here as people and human beings, and we just want to have a conversation. That is why it is called Cafe sur le pont. We are here drinking coffee as friends and having an open conversation on how we transition things. To get a diversity of ideas and thoughts to cross pollinate between each other. That is the purpose here. - precis of Nori - - 0:03

Felix - a common ground

Café sur la pont is also to provide a common place where we all have the possibility to communicate to people from the various Cardano entities such as IOG, Emurgo and the Cardano foundation.

A common ground where people from different groups can come together and do not have to represent themselves in any official role. Bur rather coming and joining together as community members. To get an idea of each other’s visions, ideas, and ambitions. Thanks for joining everyone and have a lovely weekend. – precis of Felix - 1:51

Nori - guidelines

So, there’s no formal structure to this, we don’t have an agenda, it’s an open conversation. As topics and themes and conversations develop, feel free to jump in.

If you would like the floor next, just raise your hand and we’ll take them in the order of people raising their hands. It’s not a hard and fast rule. But it’s just kind of common courtesy. That’s one of the tools we use here on Zoom. And make liberal use of the reactions. If you love something, give a thumbs up or a heart or a smiley face. Participate in that way. The chat is also open, and many people have side conversations there. - precis of Nori - 2:49

Heinz - Upcoming professional users of Cardano

I’m here of course as enthusiastic community member. But until a couple of days ago I was leading digital transformation at AB InBev supply operations. So, we are romancing with joint activity. This is all about a public permissionless blockchain for a large industry venture. Of course, my private interest goes far beyond that.

But the governance topic is extremely important for upcoming professional users of Cardano. To really to be able to rely on what we are doing. To feel safe. If a community takes over the future, the innovation, and the governance of such an experiment I think it’s very important to radiate trust. And to do this bearing in mind that there is a growing number of users. So what we are doing and how we are doing this is very important. - precis of Heinz - 4:09

Nick - centropy - emerging environments - play environments

Governance is not just about voting. And Ernesto mentioned a couple of important key points. That centropy really comes from emerging environments. I think an emerging environment is very different from an iterative environment. Iterative environments are more evolutionary and emerging environment are more revolutionary. That is an innovative environment.

Where we get to come together and just play and really provide for those interactions and see what blossoms. An environment that’s conducive to bringing people together, increasing curiosity, increasing interactions. Driving a new language but still built on the base of an original language, which is our unconscious. Like using Myers Briggs which is an example of an archetype.

That is still connecting to unconscious themes that we all experience as a human species. Being able to do that drives curiosity. When we’re allowed and funded to play. I think that is where centropy starts to come in. In ways we couldn’t even imagine. I almost see we might need two separate environments as catalyst moves towards this iterative problem and solution focused environment. Sometimes you need a whole play environment where curiosity can take hold you. And if that is funded, you’re going to get the best out of the people. The best ideas come out of this kind of like play environment where mistakes can be made. - precis of Nick - 5:49

Len - industry or governments needing consistency.

I just want to focus on Heinz’s point about industry or governments needing consistency. I go back to that first Fireside Chat between Frederik Gregaard and Charles Hoskinson, where I saw Charles taking notes. And Frederik said very clearly you’re not going to get industry to put their mission critical systems on a blockchain that can be changed by a nameless community. They just won’t do it. And so I think that that you have to consider this governance issue very carefully. - precis of Len - 7:52

Reference - Cardano - Ada Lovelace anniversary fireside chat with Frederik Gregaard and Charles Hoskinson - Dec 10, 2020

Mihaela Ulieru - Game B, Bonita Roy, play and playgrounds, emergence and design

I was inspired to bring this to the fore of our thoughts, especially regarding what Nikolas (Nick) said about the need for a space for play. Where ideas flow freely.

I experienced this already because I cheated a bit yesterday when Felix eased me with a preparatory discussion and then I had an opportunity to practice a bit this play.

This reminded me of a community I have been involved in called Game B. It’s exactly the opposite of top down. How industry is organized today.

So, we experimented with play and it’s amazing what is happening through emergence, it exists, and it is very powerful. I feel good to be in this community right now, I can call it bridge builders, but maybe we don’t have a name yet.

A philosopher of science, Bonita Roy, brought a few of us, about 20 people on her farm. And we were playing with each other and with horses. Just like Café sur la pont, but in person. It was amazing.

I wanted to point to what Ernesto was saying, because we need to redesign that is how you challenge the person.

Immediately this this word design. We are willing our way to design or redesign. I think this emergence and play are very important. This community is so powerful. First, because the people in need are amazing thinkers, and I’m always learning from this.

The way in which systems in society are currently structured people climb to the top in various ways. And I managed to climb to the top in the academic world, against a lot of odds and with much hardship.

There is so much there that is not considered, and the real power is overlooked in this structure. So how do we unleash this is something which has preoccupied me a lot.

I have an issue with the word redesign. Does redesign involve emergence and how it is linked with emergence?

To respond to Heinz, yes, these are extremely valid points. But the question is now, what do we want to do? Do we want to play with the old world by their rules? And why? So that’s, that’s the first question for me.

And I see Charles (Hoskinson) doing both. What I want to believe that he is putting, planting Trojan horses in the industry and government offices, and seeding experiments such as Catalyst. This is starting some movement from which other movements … and I have the wrong words. I don’t know if this is a movement, whatever it is, a community playground. Catalyst is a focal point of inspiring such playgrounds.

So, he’s (Charles Hoskinson) covering both ends.

I believe there is a point in playing with the big guys and the industry. My question is how much do we want, and I am speaking for myself, to prostitute ourselves and play with the industry by their rules still? How much do we really want to be ourselves on this playground? - precis of Mihaela - 8:55

References :

Mihaela Ulieru - IOHK Profile
Bonita Roy - https://bonnittaroy.medium.com/
Game B Wiki - https://www.gameb.wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
Game B – Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/gameb/

Heinz - impact of distributed ledger technologies

Just a short response. My personal perspective is much wider than the needs of industry. Also, I left my job at the end of September, and I am now in the University of Malta also engaged in blockchain activities. So personally, I think that also by introducing distributed ledger technologies, blockchains, to large companies, it’s not just technology, it is also triggering so many things within these companies. So, the trojan horse analogy is a good one. - precis of Heinz - 13:51

Reference

– Center for Distributed Ledger Technologies, University of Malta - https://www.um.edu.mt/dlt

Yoram - identity and values

We spoke already a lot about inspiration. A lot of the people in the conversation already did a sudden transition. To what inspired them, what motivated them. I will take it to another level, what disturbed me for many years is identity. What is identity? The differences between most of the governments today in the world is defined by identity. What we were born with.

People are here because they are looking for a different identity based on values somehow. What is the inspiration that is being created? How can we inspire more people? What is the inspiration that we can create to have this new identity that will make the world somehow better for the citizen and for nature?

We have people from all over the world here and we have so many common things that we are building together. What fascinates people to come and do more? - precis of Yoram - 14:47

Mihaela Ulieru - Which values ?

I would just say just one more thing, a tweak. Because which values? Everybody has values. I am sure industry CEOs have their own values. Even the predators have their values, how much prey? How many eyeballs? So, which value? - precis of Mihaela - 16:29

Yoram - Common values

If we take religious values, Muslim, Jewish or Christian values, you will get the same values. But everyone thinks that they have the best values. But it is the same in essence. We are trying, at least here, to build values that are above us, that are connected to climate change. Connected to a more equal world that is above our identity. - precis of Yoram - 16:50

Steve - How can Catalyst prevent being gamed ?

I have a fundamental question. I have been in the Catalyst community for over a year now. I try to pay attention to what IOG, what the Cardano Foundation is doing and appreciate the high-level thought and research into all these things.

I try to pay attention to what everybody thinks about on the high level, the gamesmanship, the game theory, and the protecting against bad actors. Down here at this ground level of community and in Catalyst we want to play, and I appreciate your speaking about it that way because I consider it that way too. But what I have noticed is that we’re having a hard time as a community addressing how Catalyst can prevent being gamed and avoid wasting time with people who don’t really understand what we’re doing.

People who are getting involved in what we’re doing because it’s open and permissionless which I want. But I don’t want to waste time on people who don’t even understand what we’re doing.

When I brought this up in conversations that we need to funnel out the unintelligent or unintelligible people who are engaging in Catalyst. The responses are that leads to gatekeeping and authoritarian abuses. And I get that. But it seems to me it should be possible to do this weeding out process so that we are not jumping up and down in place and never going anywhere. - precis of Steve - 17:50

Noah - Practical virtue ethics.

I just wanted to respond to what Mihaela was saying about values. I think that values, virtues, moral philosophy in general, the field of ethics, is quite practical. One of the points that I always keep coming back to is, Aristotle had a principle, that virtues must be ranked, or goods must be ranked. And if goods conflict you must put one good over the other good.

But if you take this to a certain limit eventually you get to a highest good, which is not really something specific, but kind of a concept.

But you find that when you are making goods, they don’t always conflict often they support each other. Often when you’re optimizing for some value or virtue, you consider which goods conflict. And if it’s difficult to decide it might be possible to restructure that question. To try to understand how I should prioritize virtues that help each other, rather than are against each other.

That can be an effective principle to use when determining aspects of systems, when it comes to human rights and human dignity. To find those sets of things that promote general well-being in people. - precis of Noah - 21:51

Nori – Balancing the autonomy of the individual and protecting the community.

Thanks Noah, I think that is an important topic. What are the values we are driving towards the community? And do we all have the same ones?

Often, as I think Derek mentioned earlier, voting isn’t the end solution, we should reach things by consensus. But that is only possible if we’re all driving towards the same goal. If we are all going in different directions consensus is almost impossible.

I also mentioned in chat that our bodies have immune systems that fight off invaders or things that aren’t good for the body. How do communities evolve that kind of an immune system to combat fraud or gaming? How do you strike a balance between the autonomy of the individual, self-sovereignty, thriving and doing what you think is best versus protecting the community from people trying to take advantage of that openness and freedom?

I think that is a hard balance to achieve. We cannot have an absolutely zero immune system or the gaming and the fraud will happen. But we also do not want to make everything highly controlled and top down either. Where do we find that balance? And how will that work? - precis of Nori - 24:03

Mihaela Ulieru - Who decides which are the values in a community?

I would add, who decides which are the values in a community? I think this is still an open question. - precis of Mihaela - 25:27

Noah – There is such a thing as morality, there are such things as virtues.

I don’t think that any of us here are moral relativists or at least we ought not to be.

There is such a thing as morality, there are such things as virtues.

I think that regardless of who is included in the community there are certain moral facts that can be agreed upon. And when people disagree with the entire infrastructure, perhaps they disagree with human rights, those might be instances in which actors are behaving in bad faith.

In such instances they cannot be expected to contribute to the goal of the product or the group. When they do such a thing they ought to be corrected. It’s for their own good that they be corrected. - precis of Noah - 25:46

Ricardo - Catalyst is in its infancy

I think it’s a little bit too early to be having this discussion. Catalyst is in its infancy. We wouldn’t be here today if it wasn’t for IOHK.

If Catalyst is not able to collaborate with a commercial organization, it doesn’t bode well for the future. It is an important relationship to establish.

If you say we are so organized now we don’t need any sort of institution, any sort of governmental body. You’re putting yourself way out there. And I don’t think Catalyst is ready if anybody were to analyse where we’re at now. - precis of Ricardo - 26:52

Heinz - Not everyone will be able to play the pilot

I think we are coming from a from a very good central body with IOHK. Let us be happy that there is no crisis to take over as a community. We have a very good central driving force behind roles such as the voter or community advisor or veteran community advisor.

There might be concentric circles, basic topics to govern and delicate topics. Like if we are founding an airline. There are many basic topics but not everyone will be able to play the pilot. So, there might be a kind of a concentric circle that is need or merit based. We are in the very early beginning of this journey, which is super fascinating. - precis of Heinz - 29:05

Aharon - Joining a community is a little bit like falling in love.

The discussion of the value is always vague, but it is very important. I can testify from my own experience being part of communities. Joining a community is a little bit like falling in love. When you fall in love you see in your partner only the positive aspects and ignore the things that later will be annoying.

When you join in a community you have this feeling that you have found your place, and everybody shares the same values. So, this is the great right place for you to grow. But as the time goes by you see where your values are not actually the same as others. Then conflict arises, this is the time to decide whether to continue together or to separate.

I’ve seen many communities’ members choose to separate and the communities broke apart. The building of the infrastructure for dealing with conflict is very important from the beginning.

Governance is not just decisions about budgeting or about protocol changes it is also about the process. Discussion on the process may be a little bit meta. But it is very important that we have a process to create changes in decision making.

I am very happy that IOG started with the iterative process that we now implement in Catalyst funding. We are not starting from zero. - precis of Aharon - 30:17

Mihaela Ulieru - Do you feel as a community that you are not sufficiently heard?

Can I ask something Aharon. Do you feel as a community that you are not sufficiently heard?

Because you said we need to change things and engage more people. I do not know how to understand that. Is this something which is not observed by IOG or you did not communicate it to them? - precis of Mihaela - 33:05

Aharon – We need to consider how we scale

I personally do not believe that there is a gap of intercommunication between the Catalyst community and IOG. I think there is now the appropriate channels of communication.

But we do need to consider how we be scalable to large numbers as well. It is a challenge for every community and it’s true for us as well. - precis of Aharon - 34:03

Mihaela Ulieru - What is not enough from IOG?

I want more substance to what is not enough (from IOG). Maybe we cannot know, but just think about it. Eventually together. I’m just building a bridge from the other side now, although I’m not representing them (IOG), but I can think from their shoes. - precis of Mihaela - 35:09

Ernesto - Patterns and principles of living systems.

I would like to go back to this question of community and values and bring two other words into the conversation that I find have been important. In my experience of putting community together the first one is understanding the exact purpose of why we are here. Another word is much more powerful. That is the intention. If there is a pure intention and that is aligned with that purpose, I think that is what brings the community together.

I think that goes beyond values. What is our purest intention? Because everything is karmic, interrelated, and collective.

I would like to bring into the conversation, beyond values, the principles of life. Patterns and principles of living systems. We are not going to go through this threshold if we do not resonate and are aligned with the patterns and principles of living systems.

They are so simple once you understand them. Because it is just the journey of the universe. My question, addressed to technicians, is it possible to code with the patterns and principles of living systems? Is even discussed?

What are we coding as technicians, coders, language creators? Is the coding that is thought now from the old paradigm, transactional and extractive ? The difference with Cardano is that it is thinking beyond monetization. It is bringing in this possibility of having this conversation. - precis of Ernesto - 35:51

Oscar - Young people not interested in big stories anymore.

I was searching for a term and then Ernesto brought it to my mind. Intention that is beyond values that I was what I was looking for. We should look at the need of this generation’s intention.

I’m over 30 years old but work with young people in the university as a researcher. I see that their intention is that they are not interested in big stories anymore. They are interested in individual stories, and they like to share individual stories.

Before, our religions and national stories used to govern people. In a country like Turkey these narratives are very strong. If you are a religious and nationalist politician, then you are likely to be voted.

But this generation is looking for something else. They want to be more connected. Blockchain is bringing an interesting narrative that is more likely to connect people than the Internet does. In Turkey young people especially are interested in blockchain.

Of course, values and norms are important, we can generate these things together. But we should look at the young generations need and ensure that we always promote the individual stories. If we do that, I think we will bring the new Charles Hoskinson onboard, the new Mihaela onboard.

I believe we will see great things happening in in our ecosystem. As Mihaela mentioned, we borrow resources from the next generation. So we have to do something for them and empower the younger generation. - precis of Oscar - 39:00

There are many issues which arise here. The first one which jumped out at me is that there is a lot to learn from what is happening in Turkey right now. We can also look at a top down IOG or Charles itself as the power structure giving power to the community.

And individuals, which are here, each of us with our voices are creating a new game. By the way, Heinz, a new game. It involves rules, for example, only pilots, qualified people can pilot the aircraft. So, yes, there are rules in the game, but we’re still playing the game. It is a game. I hope so at least.

Secondly, I don’t know if the purpose is to create a new Charles. I think Charles has the problem of giving up this power to the community. We can learn a lot from the young people. I agree with empowering individuals. But also empowering them to listen to each other and play the social game with different values. - precis of Mihaela - 41:43

Nick – The power of archetypes

The old paradigm is trying to use this word community to cover everybody. Trying to define all the values and intentions as one big community. We are at a stage right now where we really must separate.

Google’s Project Aristotle identified what worked for one team didn’t work for another. One team loved to aggressively talk over each other. Whereas like another team doing that would not be so good. They would like to raise hands or go around in a circle.

So, I think we need to start to drop this down a little bit. That is why I believe in the power of archetypes. If we think about archetypes, we can think about the whole community as a circle. And Carl Jung’s archetypes then are each 12 slices of that pie. The Rebels might be the ones who are going to be crazy revolutionary, a little more aggressive. And that might not work for the lovers or the caregivers. You just want to make sure everybody gets their voice heard. But we need to create separate environments for everybody to be heard. That is where the values are going to get decided.

If we try to do it as one big, worldwide community we are going to struggle. We are going to have all these conflicting interests. I think the psychological research with Jung and archetypes gives us a foundation upon which to build, to create those environments. Allowing those to be nurtured in their own ways, then they can kind of comeback as representatives to help build overall values and how general things function.

It all happens at the individual level. Consensus does not work if we involve millions of people. It only works when you empower that individual team who has frontline knowledge. They know what makes them successful, that is when consensus works. We are moving out of this stem cell range, and we need to allow the liver cell to be the liver cell and the heart cell to be the heart cell and the eye cell to be the eye cell. We cannot force each of these cells to do the same thing.

This is also covered in some great books like “The Innovators Dilemma” (1997), “The Innovators solution"(2003, Clayton Christensen) and “The E-Myth” (1986, Michael Gerber).

The first step is how do we start to really empower these different environments and teams. Then nurture them. Archetypes also provide an inherent play environment because not only are you learning about the project, the greater mission, the goal of the community, but you are also learning about yourself. It is an inherently gamified system. I learn about myself, how I interact with other people and how I drive my own innovation. - precis of Nick - 43:22

References:

Google’s Project Aristotle

Jungian Archetypes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungian_archetypes

Clayton Christensen

The Innovators Dilemma (1997)
The Innovators solution"(2003)

Michael Gerber

The E-Myth (1986) (Michael Gerber).

Felix - The biggest value we have is being ourselves.

Nicholas I am happy you are here. Because I want to go to the same direction. I also think consensus can be dangerous because it always aims for an idealistic perspective.

If everybody agrees then the way to fanatism is not so far anymore. There is a small border between Idealists and fanatics.

I would be worried about a conversation where everybody agrees. I would say, wait there is something wrong. Where is the diversity when everybody agrees? Where is the alternative? Is it really diversity to say we are all on the same page?

I think it’s not so important to say we have the same values. What matters much more is that I can understand and to respect your values. And that the other side also can understand and respect my values.

So, there is not a value is worth more than another one. There is only a difference. This difference, which is the beauty of diversity, is easy to scale. Nicholas, you said already with billions of users do you want to reach consensus? If you reach consensus then it’s dictatorship? Something is very wrong when you have billions of users created for one thing, let’s say for a whole bunch of protocols.

I think it is much more saying let’s develop everybody. The biggest value we have is being ourselves. When everybody has the environment and the possibility of being themselves. Then they can transform their potential into value, allowing them to serve people next to them in the environment. Then there doesn’t need to be a whole protocol.

It’s much more from a philosophical, humanistic point of view to say, hey, we are human. It can be as simple as that. - precis of Felix - 47:41

Yoram - We are here because of a survival need to change.

I completely agree with Felix and Nikolas. Pluralism is obviously excellent and good. On paper Cardano’s objective is to make this world better for all. But there is a challenge with everyone values.

Most of the people in the world live in a state of dictatorship. I think we are here, because of a survival need to change. At least myself. Most of us are not happy with the system we live in. For many of us it is a survival challenge that we want to create, to make this world a better for all.

Therefore, we’re in this blockchain (Cardano) not in other blockchains. Where the main goal of the blockchain is to create community. I would challenge that I must agree with everyone else’s value. There are some values in the world today, like human equality, just to give an example, which I don’t agree with.

I am dedicating my years now to do more on climate change. That is a survival need for the planet, for us. For me it’s not a game. I know that we have fun. And let’s enjoy it and make mistakes. It’s experiment and it’s amazing, incredible. But it goes further than a game. It is part of the lives we want to create going forward. - precis of Felix - 50:04

Noah – In a time of abundance, we have the luxury to say everybody can get what they need.

I wanted to celebrate Nicholas’s emphasis of the archetype because a lot of our manifestations of our personalities and our intentions are governed by in some sense by archetypes.

When we’re operating within a group, we are not just ourselves. We are also representing something that is more than one person. In a sense Charles is not Charles Hoskinson the person. Importantly to us Charles is an archetype of a certain type of leader. I would question a little bit the validity of the set of 12 archetypes because those are highly dependent on cultural contexts. But allowing the group to support the existence of certain archetypes is extremely valuable. In a time of abundance, we have the luxury to say everybody can get what they need.

We are in the era of Voltaire. Voltaire would sign off all his letters, “crush the infamous thing”. Do you guys know what he was talking about? He was talking about the Catholic Church and a conflict between the ability to speak freely and piety. Some people might think that piety is more valuable. Others might say freedom of speech is more important.

These are questions that we must negotiate over time. I think some of us will hit hard roadblocks when it comes to certain things such as equality. I can’t support a situation where a woman cannot own an address on the blockchain. Because she can’t own value. That is a major problem.

I wanted to ask a couple of questions of Ernesto, because he mentioned this powerful notion of the intention. And he said that it’s more powerful in some ways than values. I wanted to understand a little bit better from him what exactly what does it mean to have an intention? What is an intention? And what is the value winner? And when do they win? Are they the same? And when did they when did they conflict? - - precis of Noah - 53:02

References

Voltaire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaire
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Voltaire
Quoi que vous fassiez, écrasez l’infâme, et aimez qui vous aime.
Whatever you do, crush the infamous thing, and love those who love you.
Letter to Jean le Rond d’Alembert (28 November 1762); This was written in reference to crushing superstition, and the words “écrasez l’infâme” (“Crush the Infamy”) became a motto strongly identified with Voltaire.

Ernesto - We are creating more than a community, we are creating a commons

Well, I hope I can answer. It is a very complex question that I don’t know if I have the words to describe.

I think if everything we do comes from our purest intention. And our intention is to be the truest self. What we do in our community is give permission to other people to be their true selves.

So that brings the focus of us into that relationship. And that is what builds the community. Focusing on understanding our purest intention. Why is it exactly that we’re doing this? And we’re doing this not for ourselves but from a holistic perspective, we’re doing it for the whole.

We are creating more than a community, we are creating a commons. This is something that each one of us needs to work in ourselves. Who are we bringing into this community? Is it the best version of ourselves? Are we putting our purest intention in what we’re doing here? Somebody mentioned truth, this would be the truest version of ourselves. - precis of Ernesto - 56:08

Ernesto / Noah - individual intention and the collective

Noah - So is the self-static? Is it innate? Or does it evolve over time? In your definition?

Ernesto - I hope it evolves over time.

Noah - As we learn more and does it exist in a vacuum? Or does it exist as a synthesis, across our relationships?

Ernesto - I don’t think any of us can exist in a vacuum.

Noah - So if we become a good community that will help us become the best version of our pure selves. Is that correct?

Ernesto – That is correct. If we come with the purest intention. Because all of us in our purest intention create the best collective version of what we are. Eventually, we’re all one. If we already believed that we are all one it would be kind of simple to put it together. But we have the complexity of our egos, our mandates and everything that is on our backs. - precis of Noah / Ernesto - 57:56

Noah / Ernesto - How do we as a community address the tragedy of the commons?

Noah - How do we as a community address the tragedy of the commons?

Ernesto - Elinor Ostrom came up with rules that are structured to the physical landscape Commons. I think this great discussion is now probably led by David Bollier. That is, how do we manage social and digital commerce. And it also did an incredible work in bringing these eight principles that govern the commons.

I think now we need to transition because technology has grown so exponentially that the commons that we are creating has the possibility of this new language that I mentioned. New systems are co evolving with this new language.

It is our responsibility to understand how to update these rules to manage the Boston Commons, differently. That became a kind of a desert. The commons that we are trying to create here actually needs to transcend community. The Commons, it’s more a verb. We are commoners and that demands activity. It’s a proactive action to prioritize what we want to build and to have a clear purpose and intention. - precis of Noah / Ernesto - 59:17

References

Tragedy of the commons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

Elinor Ostrom

David Bollier

Ernesto - Definition [of the Tragedy of the Commons]

I can give you a definition [of the Tragedy of the Commons]. It is when we have a common asset, and the cost is distributed by everybody, but the benefit is individual.

There was the Boston Commons, everybody grazed their sheep and cows, because the grass was free. The incentive was to have as much a sheep as possible because you didn’t pay for the grass. But that created soil erosion. And that is happening at every level in the Amazon, in the oceans, etc. We have these free riders with this extractive mentality that are creating a tragedy of the commons. - precis of Ernesto - 1:01:47

Mihaela - What is the commons for us, for this community?

I think a point to take from this interaction now is to define what is the commons for us, for this community? Are the Commons the knowledge which we create, the rules or whatever? - precis of Mihaela - 1:02:59

Gary – Cardano as a natural system

Looking at what Ernesto was talking about natural systems, here I am, pulled over next to what happened to be a national cemetery in Minnesota. Here we’ve got this confluence of all these people who used to be and the sun.

If you take this idea that Ernesto was talking about natural systems, Cardano is already there and it’s a gift. It’s already happening.

If you take photons from the sun and follow them, they hit a plant and the plant creates some sugar, it’s tokenized sunshine. The tokenized sunshine in that plant, you eat a raspberry, the raspberry becomes you, you break down that tokenize sunshine and then it goes into all your cells.

What’s great about Cardano is this extension of nature. It is such a privilege to have this beautiful system that can take this tokenized sunshine in us now. And now we can go back to intention. Because you control three things, you can set an intention, you can take an action and let go. Those are the only three things that we control. If we look at those three things, setting intention, taking an action, and letting go. It’s that third thing the letting go that causes most of the suffering.

The Buddhist monk Thích Nhất Hạnh said that we’re called to love of the people in such a way that they feel free. So, what if Cardano was a system was an ecosystem?

Where the intent is loving other people in such a way that they feel free to manifest the sunlight that’s moving through their bodies. They can set intentions, take actions, and they can create communities. As a free being to associate and disassociate with people as they as they feel fit.

If there are incentives that are built into the system or distributed applications that incentivize certain behaviours then people can choose applications, choose communities. They can choose p2p (peer to peer) lending, insurance or whatever it is that this ecosystem manifests.

That is the beauty of this thing. We don’t have to have consensus on how we are going to come together as a community. I think if we just focus on creating fertile ground for people to choose the community, the way they want to evolve, just giving people the freedom and letting go of how things manifest. Then ultimately, we move together as a community and co create this together. Look at the principles that Nassim Taleb talks about in his book, Anti-fragile, because I think that will guide us.

Especially as Catalyst as a community needs to focus on building robust systems that are resilient, and anti-fragile. So, we don’t have to tinker or intervene. Because the more we have to tinker and intervene we’re going to get what we got. A system that’s just prone to corruption, manipulation, tinkering, finding consensus, pushing other people out and creating haves and have nots. What a tragedy that would be if Cardano ended up moving in that direction. - precis of Gary - 1:04:41

References

Thích Nhất Hạnh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%ADch_Nh%E1%BA%A5t_H%E1%BA%A1nh

Nassim Taleb

Mihaela - From our community there will be many spinoffs

I just want you to underline the importance of one thing, which was not mentioned before, before Gary brought it up here. I call them ad hoc regimes. From our community there will be many spinoffs. Around the archetypes, around the ways. And how you attract those who would join naturally.

Communities where I feel that I can communicate and that freedom. Where I choose my game. And when I say game, I don’t mean it’s not a serious game. I just mean this freedom that I must choose and to create and maybe recreate rules.

We must experiment with rules because we didn’t crack the nut yet. What are the true rules? If you imagine a t shirt with Game B is written on it and on the back when you turn, you see, “we don’t play” that means we are serious. Game A is the game which the current politics and industry is playing. - precis of Mihaela - 1:09:23

Gary - Set an intention, take an action, let go

If we go back to before there were cell phones, smartphones, and everybody glued to their screen. When I was a kid, we had to go and ring a doorbell, and invite someone to play a game.

If you can set an intention, take an action, let go. If the intention is to invite somebody to play this game and someone else joins the game. Now you build consensus around the rules of what it means to play the game. So, if we’re playing a game, are we playing the same game? Are we engaging in this game that has the same rules? If we have the capacity and ability to allow people to enrol other people in the possibility of playing a game. Maybe it is the creation of a Dapp that revolutionizes local food production and food distribution? Let’s play that game. Let’s play a game of reforestation. - precis of Gary - 1:10:52

Dean - If we can enable people to build the bridges, they will build them.

Before open source became famous as Linux there was another product that was far more valuable, far better suited to the industry and that was called BSD. BSD already existed and a gentleman by the name of Linus Torvalds rallied a group of people to enable creativity and innovation. He didn’t know where it was going to go. But what he did know was that the geopolitical environment, not the technology side, that was existing at that time was ripe for change.

This is one of the things that Charles [Hoskinson] has the capacity to do and help people understand. As we continue to move forward bridges are going to naturally evolve out of what’s happening in the environment.

People who were involved in open source who wanted to not just build but make a financial impact found out quickly that the reason that open source succeeded so well is because code was opened to examination. If they must, they will throw that code away and they will redesign the code.

The innovation structure is one of the things that is driving my interest inside this Cardano structure.

Another one is a striving for two types of values. One’s called value transfer. And then one that’s called value exchange. A value transfer is just something I’m just going to transfer to you. Artists will take some of the greatest pieces of creativity, and they’ll give it away. Then many artists want a full value exchange they would like something back for what they’ve received. One of the things that Cardano does is provide the ability to enable people to transfer value and to enable engagement in value exchanges.

If we can enable people to build the bridges, they will build them. Because they will be driven by the very value that sits inside of them to say, I value this enough, I will build the bridge, I will go and spend the hours, I will go and lift things, whatever it takes to build the bridge. We have the chance to not just enable changes that we’re seeing happening, but the existing geopolitical environment will fuel where we’re going. That is why Linux succeeded over BSD. At the time it wasn’t about the technology it was about the geopolitical environment. About what people were tired of. About how can I break myself away. Then they started to look for people to help them. - precis of Gary - 1:12:19

References

BSD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Distribution

Linux

Linus Torvalds - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds

Mihaela - [open-source] a good example of the Commons

I’m old enough to have lived those times with Linux and all what you said in that story. This is such a good example of the Commons and how to catalyse a community to curate the commons. To make it perfect and better than anything else. This is, to me, a perfect example of what we can achieve. - precis of Mihaela - 1:19:10

Nori - There are things that have come before that we can learn from.

Thank you, Dean. That reminds me a lot that there are things that have come before that we can learn from that we shouldn’t just try to build from scratch. I was around in Tokyo back in 1992. And I started an ISP, using Linux, I think it was like version 0.98, patch level 14 from Slackware. And I’m putting in 30 Different floppy disks to load the whole thing because CD ROMs weren’t even invented yet.

About that time an article came out called “Cathedral in the Bazaar” about why open-source works. We see other examples, not just Linux, like Wikipedia. Who would have thought we’d have an open website where anyone can add, edit and we’ll create the world’s largest encyclopaedia? At the same time, Microsoft was building Encarta and doing this whole centralized kind of thing. And it didn’t win, because we, as a community and a collective are way more powerful.

I think there’s some important things that we need to remember like radical transparency through open source, you can see what everyone’s doing. So that brings your best game. The radical inclusivity of Wikipedia allows anybody to edit.

I think there are mechanisms there that we can learn from and incorporate into what we’re building here. This conversation has been amazing because it’s starting to connect a lot of the dots in my own head.

I think it was Felix was comment that really solidified this. It’s not really about values. As Ernesto said the intention and purpose are overriding because we can all come with different values. There are certain values and identities but not everybody has to buy into that for us to work together as a community. But the purpose or the intention to bring our best selves and to change the world and make something great here. I think those kinds of things are, are way more important. We should allow people of different values to come in and have, like burning man says radical inclusivity. But also, radical transparency. I love that Catalyst Circle and all these meetings are recorded and shared. So, anybody who’s curious can see what’s going on, there’s nothing happening behind closed doors. - precis of Nori - 1:19:55

References

Nick - Not everybody has that freedom of choice.

Voltaire Cardano roadmap needs to really be cautious about how we are fertilizing the environment to call in these bridge builders.

One thing I would challenge Dean on is that while everybody here on average is that creator type the reality is that is a small percentage of people around the world. And not everybody has the inherent resources to have that full freedom of choice.

That is where Cardano can be a successful forerunner if they really focus on creating that environment. To give the have nots, to people who are in the frontlines dealing with these problems, with real world examples. To make this world better we must figure out ways to bring them into the conversation.

That’s why I like using something like archetypes, whether it’s Myers Briggs or union ones. You can get to a ton of different archetypes.

We are still at a at a less than 1% of our market share from an engagement standpoint, you know, our engagement in Cardano is really small. In the statistics of start-ups getting a 10% of the market share is a doable thing for many companies. But it is only when you cross 10 to 15% that you’ve crossed that chasm where you drive mainstream adoption.

Understanding that nature thrives in diversity, it’s not a monoculture. Monocultures have shown to be consistently problematic. How do we start providing for diversity, funding, and creating these environments so that the people can come in and have this freedom of choice? Because not everybody has that freedom of choice? - precis of Nick - 1:23:10

Ian - 10 principles of Burning Man

I really appreciate you bringing up these 10 principles of Burning Man. I think that radical inclusion, radical self-expression are essences that got lost in our culture.

Because there was right ways and wrong ways, acceptable and unacceptable, and it creates a lot of exclusion. That creates the haves and the have nots. How do we move towards inclusion? I think this idea of archetypes is something that could allow that for us to cut across our culture and society.

Because the research shows archetypes give us the capacity to do that. The research shows that as human beings we operate in archetypes. Parts of we fit into an archetypal structure that make sense to me and will not make sense to anybody that does not speak my language or live in my culture.

Through that application we can create a foundation to build on to create inclusion for everybody. Because we can all communicate and find ways to relate with those people that are like us.

I believe that nature tends to strive to find an equilibrium. So when we create an environment that is inclusive, it allows for the natural swings from one perception to another one, one expression to another. We welcome all of these if our governance is set up that will support us to find equilibrium. That equilibrium then is what will support the community as a whole and our growth and the foundational intention that we’re all operating from. - precis of Ian - 1:27:32

10 principles of Burning Man

10 principles of Burning Man

Nori – Closing comments and feedback

I will open the floor for any final comments from people. As this was our first iteration of Cafe sur la pont I would like to get some feedback from you all on:

What worked?
What didn’t?
How can we improve for next time?
Does the open conversation format work?
Would you rather have us have an agenda or topics or …? So, we can iterate. Because we’re experimenting as well. And getting some good feedback at the end would be very valuable for us.- precis of Ian - 1:30:02

Mihaela - co-creating the right questions.

There are many questions. More questions, obviously, than answers. Asking the right question, it was brought up. I think we are co-creating the right questions here. This is is what is going on, at least for me. And it’s truly wonderful. What struck me now, with the last person who voted this way, you know, this is a tall order. What are we creating here? Is our goal to create the system on which is a world runs? This is huge. Although I know that Charles this is his vision.

It struck me now, how are you going to do it, so it works for every individual?

What system do I like? What is my goal as an individual? Is it in tune with the natural order of things? To flourish at my full capacity and to be able to express my creativity. For me personally, it is to contribute, that is when I really feel fulfilled.

And in what environment? I’m here to find and co-create an environment where everyone can flourish to their full capacity and for create a better world. To that extent, I can see if that would work for the for the whole world and nature.

Because this is the time of closing comments, I just wanted to have some feedback. I had a lot of wonderful feedback to my keynote at the Cardano summit. And what just happened, and for me, it kind of hurt, somebody in IOG did a blinder, and erased all the comments. I felt like this is a disconnect, like the Community Voices were cancelled. So how do we bring them in? Let’s create our own forum. Maybe we should also think of ways, invent some channels, in which maybe the control is not an authority and cannot be cancelled so easily. - precis of Mihaela - 1:31:02

Ernesto - David Bohm - “On Dialogue”

I want to thank all of you for the possibility of this space. I was struggling with your question [Nori] of whether we should have an agenda or not. And I at first, I thought it would be great. But an agenda would structure. And I come back to this this book by David Bohm about dialogue (“On Dialogue” 1996(. It is beautiful because Bohm suggests an open space for emergence. And I think we need that flexibility for our margins. I think this space is going to grow. It’s a space of, I believe, trustful relationships. And I think the basis of that are conditions for emergence. We need to think what conditions are needed for emergence. And I think this space provides this. - precis of Ernesto - 1:34:24

References

David Bohm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bohm
On Dialogue - https://www.bohmdialogue.org/

The ideal Catalyst ideation platform

By Stephen Whitenstall | Wednesday, September 29, 2021

The ideal Catalyst ideation platform.

John Wellesz
The ideal Catalyst ideation platform

In a CatalystCommunityAdvisors Telegram Post of 29th September 2021, John Wellesz and Rodrigo Pacini highlighted a collaborative Google Document which aims to ideate the ideal platform.

Rodrigo Pacini
The ideal Catalyst ideation platform

Further background

Further background was provided by Rodrigo Pacini in respect of Ideascale Improvements.

Training

Catalyst Boost Camp - 9 - Presentation

A lean Agile training initiative

By Stephen Whitenstall | Friday, November 05, 2021

Catalyst Boost Camp - 9 - Presentation

GitHub Issue

https://github.com/Quality-Assurance-DAO/F5-Developer-ecosystem-Proposal/issues/168

Catalyst Boost Camp - 8 - Forecast

A lean Agile training initiative

By Stephen Whitenstall | Tuesday, November 02, 2021

Catalyst Boost Camp - 8 - Forecast

1) Revenues from Sales & Grants

And related Costs of goods related to those revenues.

The forecasting exercise starts with financial (money) objectives.

What revenues and grants do you expect?

A first instance in forecasting money objectives is a review of revenue and grants funded. This will also include the costs of goods related to revenue and grants. Revenue may also be received with no cost of goods.

2) Your recurring costs.

This will typically be costs related to salaries, office rent, monthly costs such as phone, broadband, insurance etc. Start with reviewing with the team members and add the recurring costs.

3) Activity based costs

Including investments.

What task-based costs do you expect?

Start by inputting cost associated with specific tasks. Review each task and add the related costs.

4) Finance your project.

How will you finance your business going forward?

Start with your financing objectives. Review each objective.

Tax rates and payment terms

Tax percentages and payment terms will be need to be calculated for your profit/loss and cash flow forecasts.

Catalyst Boost Camp - 7 - Tasks

A lean Agile training initiative

By Stephen Whitenstall | Monday, November 01, 2021

Catalyst Boost Camp - 7 - Tasks

What tasks are required to reach your objectives?

Tasks or activities must be created to deliver objectives. Each objective required a definition of tasks to perform. In a team, each team member add their own tasks.

Catalyst Boost Camp - 6 - Objectives

A lean Agile training initiative

By Stephen Whitenstall | Thursday, October 28, 2021

Catalyst Boost Camp - 6 - Objectives

The objectives of the project are built up from the competences of the participants.

Such competences will enable milestones to be met, numeric estimates of product to be accurate and financial (money) objectives to be achieved.

An optimum level of planning is on a on monthly basis.

Purpose or Objectives can be seen as roughly equivalent to Key Performance Indicators.

The objective is what you aim to achieve, and the task is the activity that will get you there.

Catalyst Boost Camp - 5 - Business Models

A lean Agile training initiative

By Stephen Whitenstall | Tuesday, October 26, 2021

Business Models

With reference to the The entrepreneurship handbook Quality Assurance DAO’s Business Models focus on

Novelty. As dynamic circumstances demand innovative ways of solving problems.
A secondary focus is on efficiency as a key objective is to automate auditability, reporting and tracking in Project Catalyst.

Customers and Co-creators

Early market situation

My first Customers and Co-creators are in an early market situation. Project Catalyst is essentially comprised of technology enthusiasts and visionaries.

Clear and distinct vision ?

The end product of Catalyst is to provide an innovation fund to develop and deliver distributed governance. Known in the Cardano Roadmap as “Voltaire” There is no clear and distinct vision of exactly what distributed governance will look like. And there are differing approaches to achieving this end.

But there is some clarity in respect of a need to develop distributed solutions with a degree of autonomy that can provide some kind of organisational platform. That is DAO -

distributed
autonomous
organization

So technology enthusiasts and visionaries operate in this governance context. Often with an emphasis on experimentation and iteration. With various degrees of emphasis on distributed, autonomous, organization.

Competitive advantage is not straightforward as often the Cardano platform is often presented as a paradigm-shift rather than a product replacement.

Unique value proposition

Quality Assurance DAOs activities are spread between many different community initiatives from Oversight of Catalyst Circle, through tracking of Catalyst Swarm to development of governance in Eastern Town Hall. And the challenge is identify emerging business models and opportunities to collaborate.

I do not aim to own a unique value proposition but to distribute value. To open source it.

Through transfer of Experience
Through Activity (live examples of work)
Through participation - Collaborations (networks)

Reverse Business Model

A focus I have often returned to is the development of an auditability infrastructure to support distributed governance. My Reverse Business Model is a process of discovery of what product features this will have.

Product Features

These features include -

Facilitation
Automation
Documentation
Tracking

Meeting details

This meeting was held between 1600 and 1730 UTC on Tuesday, 26th October 2021 and was facilitated by Muzi Mtshali.

GitHub Issue

https://github.com/Quality-Assurance-DAO/F5-Developer-ecosystem-Proposal/issues/164

Catalyst Boost Camp - 4 - Business Idea

A lean Agile training initiative

By Stephen Whitenstall | Monday, October 25, 2021

Business Idea

Core Competencies

What is the core competence that will make you unique?

Quality Assurance Experience
Test Management Experience
Documentation design and maintenance experience
Technical Project Management Experience
Development Operations Experience
Community Outreach Experience

What problems will you solve?

Auditability
Tracking contribution
Community on-boarding
Workflow analysis and automation
Governance oversight and support

Who has got this problem?

Distributed Governance Experiments
Community Organisations
Development Projects

GitHub Issue

https://github.com/Quality-Assurance-DAO/F5-Developer-ecosystem-Proposal/issues/163

Catalyst Boost Camp - 3 - Resources

A lean Agile training initiative

By Stephen Whitenstall | Thursday, October 21, 2021

Resources

Human Resources

Who is in your team?

Who is involved in your team? What experience are they bringing in to the development of the project? Describe each individuals relevant experiences.

Quality Assurance Experience - Capability Maturity Model -adapted to Blockchain technology
Test Management Experience
Documentation design and maintenance experience
Technical Project Management Experience
Development Operations Experience - (Continuous Integration. Docker, Bash Command Line, Python, YAML)
Community Outreach Experience - (Peer Facilitation, workshop hosting and training )

Physical Resources

Marketable Resources

Services

Financial Resources

GitHub Issue

https://github.com/Quality-Assurance-DAO/F5-Developer-ecosystem-Proposal/issues/162

Catalyst Boost Camp - 2 - Purpose

A lean Agile training initiative

By Stephen Whitenstall | Tuesday, October 19, 2021

Purpose

Motivation - What motivates you?

Social responsibility - Implement Distributed Governance as broadly as possible. From the bottom up.
Intrinsic motivation - Give
Construct a distributed auditability platform
Make

Core value - What are your core values?

Open Source - Provide accessible, portable, and reusable solutions

Vision - What is your vision ?

Sustainability - Deliver self-sustaining economic models
Aspiration versus Article of faith

GitHub Issue

https://github.com/Quality-Assurance-DAO/F5-Developer-ecosystem-Proposal/issues/160

Catalyst Boost Camp - 1 - Introduction

A lean Agile training initiative

By Stephen Whitenstall | Monday, October 18, 2021

Introduction

Catalyst Boost Camp is a training initiative offered to Fund 2 to 5 Cohort by entreprenerdy in partnership with Project Catalyst.

9 standard Bootcamp sessions

There are 9 standard Bootcamp sessions that cover:

1 Introduction
2 Purpose
3 Resources
4 Idea
Objectives
Model
Tasks
Forecast
Pitch/presentation.

My involvement

In respect of my involvement …

I specified my idea / concept description as The Distributed Autonomous Organisation of Quality Assurance. taken from a longstanding tagline for QA-DAO.
My reasons for joining are To learn how to develop tools for distributed entrepreneurs.
The progress in 6 months I envisaged is A distributed governance quality assurance consultancy
and Need for Mentoring is designing entrepreneurship training and toolkits. Budgeting..

My original Catalyst proposal

My original Catalyst proposal was …

in Fund 5.
My development stage is I’ve created working prototypes.
The Ambitions for project are I would like to hire a team / employees.
I am uncertain when I will raise money nor am I sure if I need further funding. As at present this is subject to the outcome of Catalyst Fund 6 proposals such as Distributed Auditability and Open-Source Training.
I do have working prototypes related to documentation such as this Quality Assurance DAO website, a QA-DAO Gitbook and the Fund 5 Developer Ecosystem GitHub repository.

Notes

A large part of the introduction drew upon material published in The Entrepreneurship Handbook by Yngve Dahle.

The “2 - How much theory do you need ?” section referenced the paper The promise of entrepreneurship as a field of research, 2000, Shane & Venkataraman as 1) establishing entrepreneurship as a field of research and 2) focusing on the activities of entrepreneurship rather than seeking to identify who is an entrepreneur.

“In contrast to previous research, we define the field of entrepreneurship as the scholarly examination of how, by whom, and with what effects opportunities to create future goods and services are discovered, evaluated, and exploited. “ -(Venkataraman, 1997).

In a distributed context the translation of such a process of discovery may be familiar from recent “problem-sensing” exercises. Where the individual entrepreneur is diminished further in favour of iterative activities that seek opportunities and evaluate them according to the culture of a group or circle.

Further on opportunity is presented in two aspects:

A positive motivation to take advantage of a good opportunity that defines an “opportunity entrepreneur”.
and a negative motivation to escape a lack of opportunity that defines a “necessity entrepreneur”.

A key difference here is the level of risk and/or the opportunity cost involved. Arguely a good opportunity has a low opportunity cost that does not impact an “opportunity entrepreneur”. Perhaps because they have access to a wider range of implicit and explicit cost options - more to play with. Whilst the “necessity entrepreneur” must weigh a limited opportunity cost equation - a necessary choice.

Town Hall Slides

2021-10-22 (6)

2021-10-22 (5)

GitHub Issue

A GitHub Issue tracks this activity here

Project Catalyst

Fund 8 - Timetable

By Stephen Whitenstall | Wednesday, March 23, 2022

Announced at Catalyst Fund 8 Townhall #6

2022-03-27 (2)

Source : https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/163RaVChKMWOuE08PuzBSloHRrNx8xr3dT7Qazw4Xy8M/mobilepresent#slide=id.g11458c2f1d3_0_0

Fund 7 - Timetable

By Stephen Whitenstall | Wednesday, October 27, 2021

Announced at Catalyst Fund6 Townhall #11

2021-10-30

Source : https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1R40XA9w3hdogAkcDJNpL3gM3S9q8pcTIQYCokrEow8s/edit#slide=id.gf8ad318136_0_1236

Empowering community-driven governance on Cardano

By Stephen Whitenstall | Wednesday, December 07, 2022

“The age of Voltaire will continue the transformation of the Cardano network to a self-sustaining system, defining the foundational standards for community-driven governance in blockchain technology. In this two-part segment, you’ll hear from IOG’s Constellation program director, Johnny Nguyen, and Product Manager Michael Madoff on the age of Voltaire and finally, the team concludes with a fireside chat including Charles to answer your governance questions.

And if you’re interested in participating in the MBO, you can register at cardanombo.org.”

Decentralized governance will never look like centralized governance

What are the favourable conditions for decentralised governance ?

By Stephen Whitenstall | Wednesday, November 02, 2022

Decentralized governance will never look like centralized governance

Nor can it be made in its image. Neither can a centrally specified MBO led to decentralized governance. This is just another way to outsource governance in the image of IOG. A reproduction of corporate concerns and priorities. Decentralized governance cannot be designed.

All that can be done is create favorable conditions for decentralized nodes to emerge. A top down design is not a favorable condition.

Favorable conditions include -

Minimalism - no complicated systems, processes or organizations seeking to design everything. Instead the governance node is very specfic, fragmented and localized.
Pluralism - decentralization has led to a fragmentation of governance which can accommodate dissenting views and communities.
Fragmentation - many treasuries emerge as the central treasury dissolves.
Localism - no universal vales, no constitutional models and no bicameral system. These political bias just reproduce republican or American concerns and seek to impose these values on others. Decentralization implies localism and many different, often contrary values.
Accountability is relational - accountability is primarily about viable relations between nodes. Can different communities or functions work or play together ? If stable relations of trust form and persist - then there is accountability.

The MBO is it is not decentralization Whatever the MBO is, it is not decentralization. It is something else using that language as window dressing.

The narcissism of thought leadership

The narcissism of thought leadership and how it inhibits innovation.

By Stephen Whitenstall | Tuesday, October 18, 2022

Narcissus at the Source, 1597-1599. Galleria Nazionale d'Arte Antica, Rome

The narcissism of thought leadership

The blockchain and crypto world has always been dominated by marketing. As the promise of the technology precedes its delivery there is a tendency to invest in the message and hope that this pays off in reality.

Cardano with its emphasis on original research and long-term continuous innovation has always represented something of an exception to this hype. And a rapprochement between the two cultures of crypto and open source is mooted. But the need to struggle for attention in the marketing metaverse always brings a risk that the balance between hype and reality swings back to hype.

Value and impact

Ring fencing innovation. The “value proposition” cliche of marketing.

A project’s mission and vision in itself does not represent original thought. Conflating your mission statement with thought leadership is a sure way to aggrandise yourself and diminish how seriously your actual thought is received. It signals an intention to possess your thoughts as an emblem of your product so others can follow.

This runs counter to collaborative thinking which invites participants not followers. The proprietary maneuver of thought leadership demonstrates a lack of sympathy to or understanding of open source collaboration. Community partnerships are likely to be frustrated by the prescriptive approach of a corporate culture of thought leadership that expects to be followed.

Establishing your mission and vision

The “establish authority” cliche of marketing.

Establishing your mission and vision in the context of thought leadership is premature. It ring fences any original thought you have and presents this static example as dynamic. Concentrating on this creates a serious risk that you will be distracted away from the ongoing activity of thought and engagement with other thinkers for the sake of marketing.

Packaging yourself as a thought leader can diminish your Intellectual Property by treating thoughts as products. Because you advertise to the world your limited viewpoint. From thought leader to loss leader.

In the blockchain context your mission and vision maps out your limited terrority. Your central location. Your unique, discrete proposition. Innovation, original thought, collaboration only happen outside these limits. When boundaries are crossed and propositions are contingent and iterative.

Communicating your story and point of view

You, you and you. The sympathetic “backstory” cliche of marketing.

Communicating your story and point of view is about you. It’s nothing to do with original thought. The story of a thought leader is a mythic process intended to elicit sympathy and identification. To draw customers in. This is a passive process where customers follow the lead. The sympathetic backstory presents a desirable biography. This sidetracks the pursuit of thinking, shutting down free enquiry in favor of the banality of the leader’s profile.

A collaborative story on the other hand is an ongoing narrative where no particular biography is foregrounded. Where participants are not led but rather engage in the activity of thinking.

Capturing the right audience

If you seek to only connect with the “right” audiences then you will cut yourself off from the “wrong” differences and counterpoints that encourage original thinking in the first place.

Thought leadership seeks followers not thinkers. This kind of approach will narrow your market segment to target your thought product at the right audience. Your thought product will gain short-term profile at the expense of the long-term sustainability of collaborative thinking.

Growth and engagement

The Thought leader will always seek growth on their own terms. It is the growth of their business product that they are primarily concerned with after all. And engagement will follow in terms of the discrete, static packaging of their product. All that grows is the product’s market share and this is finite and discontinuous.

Actual thinkers seek other thinkers in order to grow through the permutations of thought. It is engagement with and development of the subject that matters not the possession of a particular viewpoint. If a particular endeavor is dominated by a single personality, a thought leader, this is a red flag for centralized and homogenous thinking.

This are just initial thoughts and I will be adding further material on …

Semantic Shift

References on how crypto culture shifts the meaning of terms to be inserted here

A governance that has a constitution is a centralised governance.

By Stephen Whitenstall | Monday, April 25, 2022

Decentralised governance is discovered

A governance that has a constitution is a centralised governance. Decentralised governance is discovered (in many different forms) not drafted.

Some alternatives include :

Asset-based community development highlighted by Vanessa Cardui here.
Amartya Sen’s take on Social Choice Theory may extend blockchain governance to include interpersonal utility.

Universalism versus pluralism

Many of the elements being discussed in governance are prescriptive requirements for participation. I also detect a presumption of an immutable basis. For example, universal values. This is from a particular constitutional tradition that historically has sought to determine global values and often export them.

When common values become sovereign the individual loses their sovereignty. They then become subservient to a common will.

“The language of reason on this subject is, “Give us equality and justice, but no constitution. Suffer us to follow without restraint the dictates of our own judgment, and to change our forms of social order as fast as we improve in understanding and knowledge.” - William Godwin, Of Constitutions, Enquiry Concerning Political Justice

Pax Romana

Some have called this imperialism in the past. The world I live in is pluralistic and lacks consistency. The problem is not with any lack in this – but the insistence of centralising tendencies to regulate such behaviour.

Fallibilism

Because governance is human it is always flawed, partial, local, and contingent. Decentralised governance is proportional to these human qualities and does not try to perfect human nature in common ideals.

So, no founders, no middlemen who listen, no expectations, no values, no visions, no mission, no alignments. Just persons unknown. Where is the space for them?

Fallibilism is a key element in innovation. An iterative approach to governance takes steps of “Proofs and Refutations” (Imre Lakatos) or “Conjectures and Refutations”(Karl Popper). As Matt Ridley notes in “How Innovation Works: And Why It Flourishes in Freedom” (2020) innovation is gradual, different from invention, often serendiptious, recombinant, involves trail and error and prefers fragmented governance (Chapter 8 - Innovation’s essentials).

Composability

“Composability is the general possibility that allows the components of a system to be recombined into larger structures and for the output of one component to be the input of another.” - Emurgo, Why Composability is a Secret Weapon for Web3 dApps. A blockchain can provide centralised or decentralised governance, permissioned or permissionless, homogeneous or heterogenic. (Decentralisation in Blockchain).

Government as invention - A centralised governance approach such as a constitution is oriented to fundamental principles that vest sovereignty in organisations. The founding principles resist being dislodged from their foundation, have a low fault tolerance and resist being recombined.
Government as gradual innovation - A decentralised governance approach is recombinant. There are no founding principles, a high fault tolerance and an orientation towards a composable governance toolkit.

Intention

What is the intent behind a consitution, a mantifesto or any set of common values ? How is the current state and the expected or envisioned state being framed ? What motivates a particular group to pursue a consitution ?
Are we designers or legislators ?

Designers - an approach to governance that builds a toolkit to enable decentralisation.
Legislators - the drafting of laws, visions, missions and values.

Conclusion

I guess where I am coming from is “Whose community?”. What is the intent behind drafting a constitution? To me it feels like building a particular government not building governance tools.

If you start to define common values, you begin to consolidate your community. This may feel good - but it then just becomes one community defined by a constitution. Already the possibility of governance is made conditional to those who are not present. I would like to explore the intent of building governance tools. A governance toolkit. Which many different communities may choose to use or abuse.

Addendum

It is tempting to fall into the weeds by insisting on Blockchain Governance Principles such as decentralization. In practice how we implement governance on a blockchain is more flexible. Even at the “Social Choice Theory” parameter level that Aggelos Kiayias & Philip Lazos recently outlined there is scope to include broader interpersonal utility through Amartya Sen’s approach.

Since Fund 5 and lessons I learnt from NFTDAO – I have wrestled with the tension between contribution and value. And I have tended to the view that contribution should always come first to avoid being led or determined by a premature or prescriptive notion of value. But tracking contribution is hard and often appears intrusive to participants.

The pain of tracking contribution can be ameliorated by wrapping it in a token (in effect incentivising tracking) But this leads us back to a value proposition. So, I now recognise that contribution & value may be necessarily linked in blockchain solutions. A token granted to represent a contribution (e.g., work done, a vote submitted etc) seems to lack meaning if it is not linked to a value (e.g., payments, incentives, roles).

But the story does not end here. As you have pointed out James Dunseith there is a kind of iterative process going on with value propositions. It is linked with factors such as trust, sustainability etc. To enable pluralism in tokenomics does there need to be either a) composability of contribution/value or b) parallel contribution/value offerings ? So, value propositions or settings can be distinguished & separated from contribution tracking. This might create a set of possible combinations on which to iterate on (applying different liquidity models each time – e.g. vesting etc.). (updated the blog post with this response).

And above all, in my view, culture. In a recent conversation with someone doing Phd research into social dynamics in the Cardano ecosystem we observed that different cultures clustered around different payment models (e.g., SPO culture, CA culture, Funded Proposer culture). These cultures differ according to how the relationship between contribution and value is configured (e.g., SPO delegation, CA crowdsourced incentives, Funded Proposer waterfall life cycles).

Tension between function and value

In terms of blockchain governance there is always a tension between function and value. It begins even at the level of a simple treasury contract where (for example) an issuer deposits funds in escrow. The contract is functional. But the question of whether a contribution has met the issuers requirements is evaluative (a value). Connected contracts will build a value framework - like the Gimbalabs Project Based Learning curriculum. To make this as decentralized as possible the value framework needs to be composable and modular. So a decentralized PBL would be a) modular - allow entrants at all stages (given they meet requirements) and b) composable - each PBL module could be reused and adapted elsewhere under open source licensing.

Now let’s apply the same approach to communities (plural). Yes, there needs to be a functional platform (the blockchain) but different communities will have different value frameworks (e.g. constitutions, rules, laws, cultures etc). A community with constitution x will issue a contract that is only accessible to contributors who met the constitutional x requirements. The degree to which a value framework is decentralised will depend upon its rigidity. If the value framework is modular, it will not have overriding universal values – but rather have contracts based on local conditions. To be composable the value framework must be changeable and non-proprietary etc.

Announcing the stake pools chosen for April 2022

By Stephen Whitenstall | Thursday, April 21, 2022

Announcing the stake pools chosen for April 2022

https://forum.cardano.org/t/announcing-the-stake-pools-chosen-for-april-2022/99831

Community Governance Oversight & Audit Circle Pre Planning

QA-DAO has just published Community Governance Oversight & Audit Circle Pre Planning

By Stephen Whitenstall | Thursday, March 03, 2022

QA-DAO has just published the record of the Community Governance Oversight & Audit Circle Pre Planning Meeting which took place on Thursday 3rd March 2022.

How to nurture a listening culture in Catalyst ?

By Stephen Whitenstall | Wednesday, January 12, 2022

After Town Session, 12th January 2022

Overview

Antifragile principles are already evident in the semantics of Project Catalyst from the “human sensor array” of Catalyst Circle, the emphasis on autonomy in DAOs, the implication of self-organization through swarming in Catalyst Swarm and the self-healing implicit in the “things may brake” message of Town Hall.

Find it on the Community Governance Oversight GitBook

Antifragile Success criteria

By Stephen Whitenstall | Wednesday, December 15, 2021

Antifragile Success criteria

Find it on the Community Governance Oversight GitBook

QADAO Stakepool - Distributed govenance through quality assurance

QADAO Stakepool went live on 9th November 2021

By Stephen Whitenstall | Tuesday, November 09, 2021

QADAO Stakepool - Distributed govenance through quality assurance

Voices of the Catalyst Circle

The last content to be recorded in the Catalyst Circle V1 Oversight GitBook

By Stephen Whitenstall | Tuesday, November 09, 2021

Voices of the Catalyst Circle

The last content to be recorded in the Catalyst Circle V1 Oversight GitBook “Voices of the Catalyst Circle” has now been posted ( https://catalyst-swarm.gitbook.io/catalyst-circle/ ). Oversight of Catalyst Circle V2 has now been handed over to my colleague in QA-DAO @CallyFromAuron ( Vanessa Cardui) and a new GitBook will be published next week. Thank you Circle V1 and Admin

Nomination as representative for the Funded Proposer Cohort

Background details for the Funded Proposer Cohort Nominee

By Stephen Whitenstall | Friday, October 29, 2021

Statement

Hello fellow Catalyst Coordinators – I am putting myself forward for nomination as as representative for the Funded Proposer Cohort for Catalyst Circle Version 2 and would appreciate any support from the community. I have posted full details here. All the Best. S

I am putting myself, Stephen Whitenstall, forward for nomination as representative for the Funded Proposer Cohort (also known as Catalyst Coordinators) for the next Catalyst Circle Version 2.

My Fund 5 proposal Quality Assurance DAO sought to assess the pathway of a funded cohort and reporting requirements. And I have been working with IOG and several Community groups including Catalyst Swarm, Eastern Town Hall and SecretDecks to prepare for Fund 6 auditability.

As a Circle representative for the Funded Proposer Cohort, I would:

Seek the views of Coordinators on Telegram, Discord and at the Biweekly meetings
Pursue improvements to the reporting of funded proposals collaborating with different Circle representatives to implement a consistent auditability platform.

Thank you for your support

Experience

My experience in respect of Catalyst Circle Version 1 goes back to its formation to July 2021 when I started documenting its progress in a Catalyst Circle Oversight GitBook and I subsequently became part of the Circle Admin Team, as a secretary, minuting from Circle Meeting 5 in September 2021 to the last Meeting 8 in October 2021.

More broadly I became active in Project Catalyst in March 2021 documenting NFT-DAO, then joining Catalyst Swarm in June 2021 creating the Catalyst Swarm Genesis GitBook, participating as a Host in the first Idea Fest and the foundation of the Catalyst School. Later I became involved in the organization and development of Eastern Town Hall in July 2021 together with a diverse and talented global team.

In Fund 5 of Project Catalyst QA-DAO submitted a proposal Quality Assurance DAO in the Developer Ecosystem Challenge that sought to encourage open-source collaboration & innovation and to do a QA Assessment of Catalyst Proposal Process itself. This proposal was successful in receiving votes and was funded in August 2021.

In Fund 6, I submitted 5 proposals including Distributed Auditability and Open-Source Training. These proposals were all successful in receiving votes and will be funded in November 2021. I am a co-proposer on the Homeless Hub proposal with Vanessa Cardui, as well as the Catalyst Swarm and SecretDecks proposals. And I am referenced as a contributor in the Eastern Town Hall and Catalyst School proposals.

I have acted as a Community Advisor in Fund 6, posted regularly in Catalyst Community Discord servers and I am familiar with Zoom, Telegram, Discord, Google Docs and Sheets.

Nomination Form

2021-10-29

2021-10-29 (1)

2021-10-29 (2)

2021-10-29 (3)

Reporting distributed community projects

By Robert O’Brien, Vanessa Cardui, Stephen Whitenstall | Saturday, October 16, 2021

This cumulative blog post aims to bring together reference materials and discussion points on the subject of reporting distributed community projects.

Robert O’Brien

The lean startup

http://theleanstartup.com/principles

https://medium.com/the-labs-wananga/lab-craft-how-we-use-experiments-to-drive-insight-b06ea3b3145f

Cynefin framework

valueflo

https://valueflo.ws/

Vanessa Cardui

Asset Based Community Development (ABCD)

Theory of Change approach to evaluation and reporting

https://www.intrac.org/resources/monitoring-and-evaluation-planning-series-16/

Version Zero

Version Zero of Cafe sur la Pont

By Cafe sur la Pont | Wednesday, October 13, 2021

Café sûr le pont introduction

☕ Cafe sur le pont introduction 🌉 was hosted by Nori and Felix at the After Town Hall of 13th October 2021.

Website

Check out the Café sûr le pont bridgebuilders Website and Youtube channel.

Summary Keywords

The SUMMARY KEYWORDS from this meetings transcript :

people, community, voting, governance, system, catalyst, open source, dor, ada, experiments, blockchain, create, talking, point, vote, environment, public goods, build, quadratic voting, reputation

Speakers

Tom, Ken, Simon, Dean, Quaser, Johnny, Tevo, Robert, Felix, Filip, Nick, Melanie, Dereyk, Charlie, Dor, Yoram, Nori, Jonathan, Vincent, George

Café sûr le pont intro:

Voltaire

The subject being discussed is broadly “Voltaire” - an “era of Cardano will provide the final pieces required for the Cardano network to become a self-sustaining system” (Cardano Roadmap).

George - What is the intention ?

Assuming the Voltaire infrastructure is going to be delayed. What are the interim solutions ? Will Catalyst Circle v2 expand upon this ? I guess the process will be open-source. And the interim will build processes that in the short-term is a democratic kind of systems. Is that is that the intention? - precis of George - 07:18.

Nori - A conversation

The initial preference is to have a conversation and not necessarily come together to make decisions. We just want to make sure that everyone’s voices are heard, ideas are expressed. Then we can go away and actually make things happen. - precis of Nori - 08:04

Filip - A Plutocratic system

Is Cardano a plutocratic system ? Which means, one ADA one vote. I just want to ask is this fine? Do we do we accept this as a fact of life? If we look at governance systems everywhere, it’s basically plutocratic. We may be sometimes mask it as a democracy, but in the end, it’s heavily influenced by money. And should we just keep aligning our system according to plutocratic principles ? - precis of Filip 09:00

Vincent - large ADA holders

I do see a point in the future when we’ve minted all of the ADA that’s ever going to be produced, where you could end up in a situation where you have large holders who can effectively just stake and stay rich and stay powerful forever. So we may need to look at a transition at some point. But things are working presently. - precis of Vincent 10:40

Dor - Building Legitimacy

I think it assumes a lot that a lot of people want a plutocratic system. And it is working against the stream to want something else. Nobody in IOG wants a world governance where rich people have lots of power. I sit in countless meetings trying to figure these things out and resolve them. And the truth is that any type of governance needs to develop legitimacy over time. Maybe someone here in the room has a quick fix. But we do not presently have an alternative voting model that cannot be Sybil attacked.

A way to validate your identity is one pathway forward. Only when it is feasible are we going to start experiments with different decision making mechanisms and allocations of voting power. And I think it’s more of a question of do we wait in the sidelines and wait for the perfect conditions to arrive and only then start to experiment or do we take what we currently have, which is ADA based voting and leverage it. To start to build legitimacy for even introducing the concept that 10s of 1000s of people can make joint decisions together effectively. So it’s not ideal, but this is the reality we have.

With our rapid funding mechanisms we can already start to launch large scale projects where we can see decision making. If we can prove that we have figured out a mechanism that is more effective, then it’s not a matter of ideology. It transcends questions of whether I believe in this or that form of governance. It will become an inevitable truth that is just going to become the new norm over time. Simply because groups which are making better decisions are going to flourish and are going to outcompete any other group.

And the unfortunate thing is it’s not going to matter if it’s more moral or less moral. Its going to be about what’s more effective. But of course being attractive. A system that is fair is engaging, and is going to have more chances to succeed. Because people are going to believe in it, and be engaged with it.

So I would concede the fact that currently this is the best thing we’ve got. But we also need to start to figure out how can we actually transition in a controlled way. - precis of Dor 12:15

George - Reputation, different levels of democracy

I don’t really see this plutocracy kind of thing fading away in any kind of immediate sense. But I do see a Swiss Army Knife of potential new options. There are going to be different levels of democracy. One that is really high level decisions, like the [Catalyst] Challenges which we vote for. But also smaller kinds of governance that just talk about how we manage this documentation or something else that’s really important to the community but is very distributed.If we can build reputation tools that can prove I have a level of skill level or reputation based on my contribution then 30% of the voting power could come from reputation and the rest be plutocracy. I think it’s going to come to this kind of AB kind of testing, some data science looking at the history. There is massive kind of potential in public goods when you’ve got proof of identity. And there may be a public good focused challenge, for instance, whereas a developer ecosystem challenge would be more focused on the right skill levels. - precis of George 17:47

Johnny - Benefits of the iterative approach

I think about the existential threat to the incentive system. But the thing I love most about catalyst so far has been the iterative approach. Its not all at once, it’s each fund, it’s scaling up. I really respect the teams for really looking at the data, really analyzing the activity of the wallets, and the participation. The other thing I love is the value system that we have within the Cardano community. We have done a pretty good job of attracting people that have a notion of community value, civic responsibility and communal effort. It isn’t just about a pure financial economic vision or economic self interest. People care about values that aren’t purely based on ADA, or Fiat. - precis of Johnny 20:11

Tevo - Experimenting in a safe, stable environment

One thing I would like to mention is that having this kind of iterative method makes us the people who are here today. Like asking questions such as “why don’t we use this method” or “why we don’t use this voting solution”. And Catalyst helps to promote this and allows your idea to flourish. This provides incentives and the opportunity to create these small little experiments ourselves in a safe environment. - precis of Tevo 22:15

Yoram - Testing based on wallets

Continuing what Tevo said, we can do a nice test. I mean we can compare results based on wallets and an estimation. So we can do a lot of trials and we will have some indication how far we have progressed with two different models. - precis of Yoram 24:31

Charlie - Structured competing interests - power plays

I guess one of the things that strikes me is that there’s nothing more efficient than a centralized government in terms of getting things done in the short term. But in the long term it cannot last. And what’s interesting with a lot of government structures being discussed now is you have structured, competing interests. It’s interesting how there are technocracies, meritocracies, sociocracy - there a lot of different dimensions of power. So you see this sort of power play happening. - precis of Charlie - 26:01

Filip - Reputation as perception

As Charlie just said reputation will always have something that is social. Our personal identity is one thing, but reputation is a totally another thing. The reputation of Filip is how I and all the rest of us perceive Filip it has nothing to do with me. I have no control over it. I may act in a certain way to try to manipulate my reputation. But it’s coming from outside. And it’s extremely dynamic. So I think to attempt to quantify that needs something revolutionary. - precis of Filip 28:27

Nick - Building communities through archetypes

One of the big things we have to start with is involving all the stakeholders, we’re still such a niche environment that we’re going to get very limited perspectives. And there is ways to measure that. My proposal Cardano community campus is all about using sociological and psychological research to build communities through archetypes. It’s a way to understand if we have a holistic environment in which to actually gather all the right information to make these decisions.

I really want to focus on gathering the human capital in the right environment. An emerging space, not just iterative, emerging meaning we actually create a space where things can come through in this effort of play and making mistakes and curiosity and imagination, because I think that’s where the blue oceans are going to be for us.- precis of Nick - 31:20

Reference : F6: Proposer outreach - Cardano Community Campus

Ken - The freedom to choose a different way of doing things

It is important to recognise that if you have just one system then everybody is stuck using that system. The freedom to leave or to choose a different way of doing things is important. Catalyst is just one system. And with Cardano, it’s possible to build whatever other voting system you want to build on it. - precis of Ken - 35:05

Tom - We should assume corruption and prepare for it

We should just assume that corruption will occur, we should just assume that the system, no matter how successful will eventually collapse from its own weight. And the benefit of Cardano, or any type of project like this is that the keys to rebuild something new are publicly available and always being innovated on. - precis of Tom - 38:21

Tevo - Explaining Cardano to newcomers - education - keeping it simple

So many topics we have in between the Firestarter Filip with his radical questioning. I understand the problem of how do you explain it to a person who is outside of a blockchain and you explain don’t trust governance here is much better solution for you ADA. ADA is a cryptocurrency, it’s proof. This is a very radical change and people will still insist it is not safe. I like the way Nick started with how the question of how do we make the ecosystem healthy?

I think the education is the only chance to get there. And this iterating thing we are doing, we are educating ourselves. I don’t think any of us are experts not even the Catalyst team themselves, or IOG. They are experimenting with all of this and they are not experts here as much as we are. We live and learn how we should govern and how we educate ourselves to govern.

I like it simple as it is right now. When I know the system stays mostly the same. And step by step, slight changes. - precis of Tevo 39:26

Vincent - Voting behavior and outcomes

It might be fun to have a way to replay the votes under different schemas.No matter how you count the votes we still have wallets in ADA, we still have the same amount of information going into each vote, unless we do rank or quadratics. If we try these different systems. What might that change as far as which proposals get picked? I think that might be cool to have a playground of sorts that actually takes the real voting data. - precis of Vincent - 42:55

Robert - PACE - Catalyst data API

PACE and myself do want to make all this data available as an API. So you might at least get the raw data. We have a proposal for that in Fund 6 to gather that proposal data in a structure API available to the community. - precis of Robert 45:00

Reference: F6: Improve and Grow Auditability - PACE: Proposal progress updates

Dean - Similarities with 1990s open-source Linux - innovation of value

This is my second town hall meeting. And I’ve been I’ve known about Catalyst native for about three months now. It’s brilliant as to what’s going on. I want to just share my background in the 90s when I was moving forward with Linux and open source. I found some very interesting similarities when I attended the Cardano summit. As if going through the exact same process.

Back then open source was a really bad word. If you bet your career on open source you were giving everything up. No one understood or cared about open source. We had to educate the market.

Some things that I’ve that I’ve watched and seen said here is very much the similar thing,trying to figure out how in the world that you communicate to people, the value of open source. What we came to find out very quickly back then, and it was very painful, was it was a based upon the innovation of value. innovation of value was what would drive the market to be accepted, when people began to understand the connections between how the value was being brought forward. It was like, once someone saw the connection and the connectivity, it was the light would go on, they would begin to create their own visions of how they could start utilizing the structures.

“The real vision comes when the value gets created, and it gets connected.”

“And then we realized this, those who will create the value, and those that will help extend the value will always innovate towards goodness, they will do that.” - precis of Dean 45:49

Reference : Caldera_v_Microsoft

Jonathan - Encourage many solutions - granular bottom-up decision making

I was listening to conversations, thinking about what I’d like to see would be to go back to what George was saying about different voting types for different scenarios.

We haven’t got a single solution for every problem. Things that need to be decided in the community are very varied in terms of their makeup. Whether on a directional, moral, ethical or a fiscal level. They have all got different aspects. And so, we should have different tools for those things.

A single solution won’t engage with people who vote. I think my drive is towards getting things more granular, smaller and decision making being made by people who are infused in the areas that they’re working in. Investing time and energy. Heightening their good intentions in areas that they have expertise. - precis of Jonathan 54:00

Deryck - Outsourcing hiring to Catalyst

In regards to hiring, it’s great that IOG is growing. What we’ve been hearing is a desire to be more integrated and have more open communications with IOG and Cardano Foundation. Is there a way to start to consider the hiring, onboarding, being outsourced to people in Catalyst? - precis of Dereyk 57:23

Nick -Taking advantage of Catalyst’s human capital

Our biggest asset is really the human capital that’s involved. And the investment we put into making that human capital work. In order to be the most innovative environment and sustain that environment because technology is going to change over time. And I’ve been part of and consulted many startups that had superior technology but really lost out because they weren’t able to connect properly with their clients or nurture long lasting, innovative environments.

“…we jumped to voting, but governance really is about like, how do we nurture each person to help them go into their genius zone.”" - precis of Nick 58:41

Ken - Making things simple to access

We were talking about having a multiple different systems for voting but I think we need to consider it from the point of view of the individual contributor. From their perspective, it needs to be simple for the one who’s interacting with the community, whether it’s through voting, or whether it’s through some other form of engagement. Because as the system grows then it’s not going to be something that you can track and manage as one. - precis of Ken 1:04:08

Robert - Research on voting - revealing preferences via pricing systems - four quadrants of goods

First of all, there’s a heck of a lot of research, a millennium of research into voting. In the area that it’s called, is social choice. Within Catalyst we’re using approval voting which is one of the worst ones we could possibly have. But it’s the best sort of approach for the moment. Aside from voting, there is actually another form of revealing preferences.

“I think that governance is far more than just voting, it’s about actually trying to form consensus.”"

In fact, if you’ve reached need to use voting, you’ve probably actually failed at governance, in many respects, because you haven’t managed to build a consensus.

The other tool for revealing preferences is the pricing system, the market. And one of the key things is that we’ve actually got an accounting layer that works on a global scale. We can use different types of market mechanisms to reveal preferences which we can trust. This falls into things like reputation and identity.

There are basically four quadrants of types of goods that we’re typically dealing with. Most of what we’ve grown up is what’s called private goods. Things like Linux or open-source stuff was more in the camp of common, public goods. A lot of the blockchain space is about trying to bring back common resources and public goods. That does not mean we have to throw out things that worked well for private goods, which is the market system.

I would encourage everyone to do some digging into the work of Ostrom. She has 40 years looking at how to govern natural resources. A lot of that work was extended into how to govern knowledge Commons as well.

The key distinction between a market and a social choice system is that social choice never had the pricing function. So we need to bring the two together.

Don’t throw out voting. We can actually experiment with a lot of different voting systems beyond just approval voting. - precis of Robert 1:07:04

Reference - Elinor Ostrom - Governing the Commons - The Evolution of Institutions for Collective Action
Reference - Elinor Ostrum

Simon - (quoting Stephen ) working meetings between IOG and Catalyst community

What is lacking in my view is any real sense of IOG staff and community members working together on day-to-day projects and deliverables. Not going away and coming back with readymade ideas and proposals. This may take some professionals out of their comfort zone - as we move to a situation where community members (“amateurs”) must participate in all Cardano deliverables in actual working meetings. Not as an afterthought or a community consultation. Circle has introduced the possibility of this - but it needs to be expanded upon. Perhaps there needs to be less concern about ownership of tasks (e.g., IOG does this, the community does this) and more focus on collaborative delivery (e.g. who from IOG and the community can work on this). There has also been a long-standing difference of circumstances between paid IOG staff and an unpaid community which undermines the possibility of ownership and creates the sustainability risk. Once some of our funding and resource initiatives are in place hopefully there can be a levelling effect - as the community are paid for their contribution. - Simon (quoting Stephen) - 1:13:51

Harris - Path from the community to Cardano

It’s not easy, there is no perfect governance. But as a community we get to reinvent what governance should be and take these great ideas, and leverage all the opinions from lots of different places around the world, to try to inform that.

“… I think, you know, the idea of catalyst is to fund great ideas and find ways to take people from being observers, to participants, to actually being active in the community to make this your full time job.”"

“And I’m a huge data fan. And, you know, I’m digging into data sources, I want to make data available. I want to make API’s available, to empower the community to continue to build the amazing tools that I’ve already seen being built …” - precis of Harris - 1:16:59

Johnny - A map of the ecosystem - hard problems of blockchain governance

Ecosystem_map_from_Johnny_Nguyen

Johnny 1:20:25

Dean - Root of Trust, application service provider, extending the infrastructure

The opportunity for Cardano is this concept of the Root of Trust. As Cardano moves forward it can help those channel organizations begin to understand how they can participate and be involved. And there are people that are wanting to see it and understand how they can participate on the technological side and bringing services to the marketplace. And how they extend their infrastructure to what Cardano can provide? - precis of Dean - 1:25:06

Reference - Trust anchor

Transcription

A full transcription of this meeting is available here

Notes on Lambda Calculus

By Stephen Whitenstall | Saturday, October 02, 2021

Church encoding of the natural numbers in lambda calculus
Notes on Lambda Calculus

Passive-Interface-Pair-for-Decentralized-Identity-DID

In response to Marta’s (N+Fold) discussion on Comparing Interoperability when there is a transliteration of material forms. in relation to her Project Catalyst Fund 6 proposal Passive-Interface-Pair-for-Decentralized-Identity-DID I touched upon the subject of Lambda Calculus :

It was an interesting session. With reference to your wiki notes: yes “Laws of Form” looks like it has parallels with Lambda Calculus. The name I was searching for on Saturday was Alonzo Church who collaborated with Alan Turing on computability. And Church’s Lambda Calculus came to mind, in relation to your proposal, because it is an analogue means of computation (written notation) and a way to test what is computable without a digital computer. Another aspect of Lambda Calculus is its sparseness - at its core it is a non-extensional theory of functions. So it does not rely on external references to ordered pairs of data. Lambda functions are unary and immutable. A passive interface with an immutable history if it is computable would be a Turing machine and a possible reader/writer could be Lambda functions. Discord link

Mapping Multiple Traces of Immutability. Why?

This comment was discussed further in an After Town Hall session hosted by Marta on 22nd September 2021 entitled “Mapping Multiple Traces of Immutability. Why?" and recorded on YouTube.

There was some discussion over the statement “A passive interface with an immutable history if it is computable would be a Turing machine and a possible reader/writer could be Lambda functions.”. Filip understood that this was simply meant as a general statement. SofiH picked up that what is computable is Turing complete. Lambda Calculus is just one means to express what is computable. As per the Church-Turing Thesis. The focus in Lambda is to do this through the use of functional reduction and I wanted to draw attention to a way of thinking abstractly about computation where the use of functional reduction is made explicit. In essence, to compute is to be able to solve numerical functions.

Extensional versus intensional Functions

Extensional

An extensional mapping of an input onto an output renders the input $X$ & output $Y$ as a domain $X$ & co-domain $Y$.

A function in this context $f : X \to Y$ is a set of pairs $f \subseteq X \times Y$ such that for each $x \in X$, there exists exactly one $y \in Y$ such that $(x,y) \in f$.

intensional

Beyond Lambda Calculus

A further development is process calculi such as π-calculus which extend functional reduction to concurrent systems.

A succent explanantion of the intensional nature of Lambda Calculus is given by Peter Selinger in his Lecture Notes on the Lambda Calculus .

Think of a computer program as defining a function that maps onput to output. Most computer programmers (and users) do not only care about the extensional behavior of a program (which inputs are mapped to which outputs), but also about how the output is calculated: How much time does it take? How much memory and disk space is used in the process? How much communication bandwidth is used? These are intensional questions having to do with the particular way in which a function was defined.

Adaptive social networks promote the wisdom of crowds

By Stephen Whitenstall | Monday, September 27, 2021

Dor Gorbash
Adaptive social networks promote the wisdom of crowds

In a Telegram post of 9th July 2021 Dor Gorbash shared an article “Adaptive social networks promote the wisdom of crowds” published in https://www.pnas.org/ .

Well-informed individuals

On 27th September 2021, I commented : For me another key statement in this paper is “Studies have found that these divergent effects are moderated by placing well-informed individuals in prominent positions in the network structure”.

Which is what (I assume) you mean by introducing “systemic biases”. In short, there will always be a bias (equivalent to the prior in Bayes - one’s beliefs about a quantity) - but what is important is that the bias is well-informed.

In the context of CAs what might translate from this article is whether :

well-informed CAs are prominent in the network,
they have the confidence to comment,
they are recognised as being “experts” (although this term raises some issues),
the skills of the well-informed CA are dispersed (e.g. via School),
the quality of the assessments a vCA (for example) has to deal with is sustainable (an overload of poor information will test even the well-informed),
the diversity of viewpoints of CAs complements and is capable of recognising different approaches to return on intent and
importantly the nature and scale of the task at hand (e.g. “Challenging tasks elicit greater conformity” - Toyokawa et al) - so quantity will indeed impact quality (at scale, a lesser capability to handle proposals that are unusual, innovative or require special knowledge).

One issue may be that there is a lack of focus, there is a lot of Social Psychology research (for example) but not so much specifically directed at the Blockchain context. As Dor highlighted, IOG research, to date, has been mainly concerned with game theory and security. So, the initiative will likely be with the community to incorporate relevant past research and to provide new contexts for research in distributed governance.

Follow-up post

In a follow-up post of 2nd October 2021 I commented :

My own QA experience was at scale on a global Telecoms contract, in an Investment Bank managing many separate systems (from Bloomberg terminals to Mainframes) and audit reporting to KPMG, IBM and the FSA (UK government) . This past experience is corporate and centralized - the distributed challenge in Catalyst complicates the assurance issue and demands an innovative approach.

Catalyst is still at a relatively small scale - but aims to serve large institutions. What is stark in my view is the lack of any assurance of a capability to assess. What has emerged is a culture of qualitive assessment with some nods to the quantitative. What has been approved by this community is contingent and circumstantial to this community. At scale proposers will want evidence of an assessment standard and capable assessors with a consistent track record (solid data). Anonymity may be a red herring in this context and trust takes on a different dimension. To maintain quality as quantity increases specialization and standards will be needed.

I should perhaps qualify what I said by suggesting that the next evolution in Catalyst assessment will likely need to be a segmentation of standards appropriate to a challenge. Each challenge having its own assessment standards. For example, to accommodate smaller scale community proposals - a more qualitative approach would be more appropriate.

The pitfalls-of-synchronous-communication.

By Stephen Whitenstall | Friday, September 24, 2021

A major issue with the use of Telegram for inquiries is that its synchronous nature leads to rapid loss of information and an incessant repetition of questions. A common request in the Catalst community is for authorative, asynchronous sources of information.

For example, Benjamin Wong suggested on Catalyst Community Advisor Telegram that a threaded forum discussion would help capture knowledge, serve as a FAQ and provide relevant content which the community could be directed to.

This is a post cumulatively updated from community sources

This post arose from an Issue raised as part of Quality Assurance DAO’s Fund 5 Developer ecosystem Proposal. To participate in further discussion please comment under IOG Funded Cohort Communication Issues" on GitHub.

The idea here is to build up material from and links to different Catalyst synchronous sources on common issues in a static, long form blog post that is cumulatively updated. I provide a link in the post to a GitHub issue where further discussion can take place.

Future of Swarm: Reputation Systems

Possible PRISM integration and giving tokens to people who join meets

By Stephen Whitenstall | Saturday, September 11, 2021

Part 1 - Recording

Part 2 - Recording

Overview

A wide-ranging discussion of Reputation Systems and associated issues took place at the Saturday Swarm Session of 11th September 2021. Further details are recorded in this GitHub Issue comment Future of Swarm: Reputation Systems.

Part 2 - Commentary

References

Decentralized Identifiers (DIDs) v1.0

Core architecture, data model, and representations
https://www.w3.org/TR/did-core/ -
https://github.com/w3c-ccg
https://www.w3.org/community/

Atala Prism

Fund 6: Atala PRISM DID Mass-Scale Adoption

https://cardano.ideascale.com/a/campaign-home/26116

Interplanetary File System

Interplanetary File System - https://ipfs.io/

Danielle Citron

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danielle_Citron
https://www.daniellecitron.com/
Law’s Expressive Value in Combating Cyber Gender Harassment - https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1300&context=mlr

Coordinator Cohort Progress Meeting 7th September 2021

By Stephen Whitenstall | Tuesday, September 07, 2021

The first Coordinator Cohort Progress Meeting after Fund 5 on-boarding.

Fund 5, Developer Ecosystem Proposal

QA-DAO - Fund 5, Developer Ecosystem Proposal

By Stephen Whitenstall | Wednesday, April 28, 2021

Fund 5, Developer Ecosystem Proposal

A deconstructed, dissected, and resurrected Catalyst Fund 5 Proposal.

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Author	Stephen Whitenstall
Published	28/04/2021
Version	Alpha Version 1.0

Creative Commons Attribution

Problem statement:

A lack of advocacy for open source

A need to reform Project Management techniques

A need to evolve to auditable levels.

Describe your solution to the problem.

Innovative approach to open source

Reform PM to distributed peer facilitation.

Adapt maturity standards to distributed organizations.

Relevant experience

Stephen has 30 years’ experience in organizing academic, community and business projects.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-whitenstall-166727210/

Website/GitHub repository (not required)

https://github.com/Quality-Assurance-DAO/F5-Developer-ecosystem-Proposal

Detailed Plan

Detailed plan (not required) - Fill in here any additional details.

The Open-Source DAO. Fund 5.

A1) DAO-Open Source.

The aim of the QA-DAO is to encourage collaboration and innovation across all open-source Catalyst Projects. The QA-DAO project started with a GitHub organization, the repository maintainer Stephen Whitenstall https://stephen-rowan.github.io/ seeks to work with open-source projects in the Catalyst community, to gain an understanding of their context and to extend their reach to collaborators in the wider open-source community. QA-DAO’s approach is iterative, recording lessons learnt from the proposal process for the community and adopting improvements from constructive criticism where they apply to a broad base.

The repository maintainer Stephen Whitenstall

A2) Catalyst Open Source - QA Assessment of Catalyst Proposal Process.

QA-DAO has begun with an experimental assessment of the various open-source perspectives within this Catalyst Fund 5 Process. This contribution is FeedbackChallenge : Open Source https://github.com/Quality-Assurance-DAO/F5-Developer-ecosystem-Proposal/issues/32 which will run during Fund 5’s Refine and Finalise stages (to gather Issues on the Proposal Process itself) and then continue onto Fund 5’s Review and Assess stages (to gather issues on the Review Process).

FeedbackChallenge

Feedback Challenge-Open-Source

Project Management: The DAO of Peer-Facilitation. Fund 7.

B1) DAO-Peer-Facilitation

DAO-Peer-Facilitation: A Distributed Peer Facilitation repository, is currently being prepared which will test the reform of Project Management from top-down planning to distributed peer facilitation and empowerment models.

B2) Catalyst Project Management:

Catalyst Project Management: QA Assessment of Catalyst Funding Process.

A QA test of how the Catalyst Funding Process could be reoriented from top-down planning to distributed peer facilitation and empowerment models is planned.

Maturity-Models: The DAO Maturity-Model. A Future Fund.

C1) DAO-Maturity-Model:

DAO-Maturity-Model: a repository adapting Quality Assurance Maturity-Models to distributed autonomous organisation (DAO), which aims to progress DAOs to Institutional Audit Standards is currently being prepared.

C2) Catalyst Maturity-Models:

Catalyst Maturity-Models: QA Assessment of Catalyst Funding Process
A QA test of whether the Catalyst Funding Process fits in a Blockchain Maturity Model and progress DAOs to Institutional Audit Standards is planned.

Transparency: (Expected Launch Dates)

Alpha Version 0.0 – Released

All work on this proposal prior to the repository going public was captured in a Alpha Version 0.0 which can be downloaded as a zip file from ( https://github.com/Quality-Assurance-DAO/F5-Developer-ecosystem-Proposal/releases/tag/v0.0-alpha )

Alpha Version 0.0 – Released

Alpha Version 1.0 - 29/04/2021

An Alpha Release 1.0 will capture the state of this proposal when it reaches the end of the Fund 5’s Refine and Finalise stages. (Alpha Release 1.0 “Finalise Stage” - https://github.com/Quality-Assurance-DAO/F5-Developer-ecosystem-Proposal/issues/93))

Alpha Version 1.0 - 29/04/2021

Alpha Version 2.0 - 26/05/2021

An Alpha Release 2.0 will capture the state of this proposal when it reaches the end of Fund 5’s Review and Assess stages. (Alpha Release 2.0 “Review and Assess stages” - https://github.com/Quality-Assurance-DAO/F5-Developer-ecosystem-Proposal/issues/94))

Alpha Version 2.0 - 26/05/2021

Project Board: F5-Developer-ecosystem-Proposal

https://github.com/Quality-Assurance-DAO/F5-Developer-ecosystem-Proposal/projects/2

Outputs: (Expected Launch Dates)\

Alpha Version 1.0 - Proposal Word Document Release - Due: 28/04/2021:

The content of the proposal on Ideascale will be released as a Word Document in PDF format and attached to this page.

Also linked at the following repository location : https://github.com/Quality-Assurance-DAO/F5-Developer-ecosystem-Proposal/blob/main/Project-Catalyst/Documents/01-Ideascale-Proposal-Finalise-Stage.md

(2) Self-Assessment checklist - QA and Completion - Due: 28/04/2021:

This deliverable is specified by Project Catalyst.
https://github.com/Quality-Assurance-DAO/F5-Developer-ecosystem-Proposal/issues/95

Self-Assessment checklist Summary: How my proposal impacts the challenge metrics is articulated in this manner.

Did we manage to make it easier for developers to build on top of Cardano? I hope to highlight in Output (3) the Open-Source Assessment Report that an improved awareness of the wide range of the open-source Cardano community may enable developers to build from many different even contrary directions.
Number of repos on Github using the tooling. (Month over month increase): The tooling in this proposal, its repo, is the proposal undone. It will offer to the community a deconstructed, dissected, and resurrected F5-Developer-ecosystem-Proposal. Although not usable as a template, it is hoped it’s bones may be picked over for many months to come as point of reference.
A sense of community and conversations. Having people around to talk with.: This proposal has already been circulated around the Catalyst open-source community in the form of it’s open-source assessment component, provoking mixed reactions and conversations.
How I address the challenge question: I addressed the challenge question “How can we create a positive developer experience that helps the developer focus on building successful apps?” by focusing on one instance of a development lifecycle; how to take something broken to the community to fix.

Definitions of Success:

3 Months - The Proposal is funded, its contribution is recognized, which provided an incentive to continue to Fund 7.
6 Months - The Proposal is used as a useful reference tool for other proposals.
12 Months - The Proposal is now redundant and regarded as a historical anomaly.

Budget Requirements: My Budget is broken into $5 for basic costs. The minting of an ADA Non-Fungible Token is pending negotiation for work in kind with NFT-DAO.

Identifying information about the proposer : The repository maintainer Stephen Whitenstall https://stephen-rowan.github.io/

Defined Expected Launch Date(s): 11/04/2021 (Alpha Version 0.0 - Released) through 26/05/2021 (Release of Alpha Version 2.0) to Governance: Due: TBA (by Project Catalyst).

(3) QA of Ideascale Platform General Issues - Due: 26/05/2021:

This deliverable is a QA of General Usability Issues of the Ideascale Platform (Data Only) to inform Output (5).

https://github.com/Quality-Assurance-DAO/F5-Developer-ecosystem-Proposal/issues/17

(4) Feedback Challenge: Open-Source Assessment Report - Due: 26/05/2021:

This deliverable will be an informal document aimed at informing, celebrating, and inspiring the Catalyst open-source community.

https://github.com/Quality-Assurance-DAO/F5-Developer-ecosystem-Proposal/blob/main/Project-Catalyst/Reports/01-Open-Source-Assessment-Report.md )

(5) Project Catalyst Proposal Process Report - Due: 26/05/2021:

This deliverable will be a formal document which will attempt a QA Assessment of the Fund 5 Process from a proposer’s perspective.

https://github.com/Quality-Assurance-DAO/F5-Developer-ecosystem-Proposal/blob/main/Project-Catalyst/Reports/02-Project-Catalyst-Proposal%20Process.md

(6) Governance: Due: TBA

This deliverable will be a “leap of faith" interaction with voters to assess whether QA-DAO should be funded $5 given the delivery of 80% of outputs (1 -5).

https://github.com/Quality-Assurance-DAO/F5-Developer-ecosystem-Proposal/blob/main/Project-Catalyst/Reports/03-Governance.md

Estimated cost:

2 ADA to mint an ADA Non-Fungible Token that records the support of Project Catalyst for QA-DAO. Set to $5 to cover currency value changes.\

Token Rewards:

A high-level process outlining a means to reward community contributions has been drafted for NFT-DAO and released under a Creative Commons License

https://github.com/Quality-Assurance-DAO/DAO-Open-Source/blob/main/Documents/Tokens/01-Keep-It-Simple.md

Blog

Governance

Edition One

Café sûr le pont Edition One

Website

Café sûr le pont intro:

Voltaire

Summary Keywords

Speakers

Nori - Welcome

Felix - a common ground

Nori - guidelines

Heinz - Upcoming professional users of Cardano

Nick - centropy - emerging environments - play environments

Len - industry or governments needing consistency.

Mihaela Ulieru - Game B, Bonita Roy, play and playgrounds, emergence and design

References :

Heinz - impact of distributed ledger technologies

Reference

Yoram - identity and values

Mihaela Ulieru - Which values ?

Yoram - Common values

Steve - How can Catalyst prevent being gamed ?

Noah - Practical virtue ethics.

Nori – Balancing the autonomy of the individual and protecting the community.

Mihaela Ulieru - Who decides which are the values in a community?

Noah – There is such a thing as morality, there are such things as virtues.

Ricardo - Catalyst is in its infancy

Heinz - Not everyone will be able to play the pilot

Aharon - Joining a community is a little bit like falling in love.

Mihaela Ulieru - Do you feel as a community that you are not sufficiently heard?

Aharon – We need to consider how we scale

Mihaela Ulieru - What is not enough from IOG?

Ernesto - Patterns and principles of living systems.

Oscar - Young people not interested in big stories anymore.

Mihaela - Playing the social game with different values.

Nick – The power of archetypes

References:

Google’s Project Aristotle

Jungian Archetypes

Clayton Christensen

Michael Gerber

Felix - The biggest value we have is being ourselves.

Yoram - We are here because of a survival need to change.

Noah – In a time of abundance, we have the luxury to say everybody can get what they need.

References

Voltaire

Ernesto - We are creating more than a community, we are creating a commons

Ernesto / Noah - individual intention and the collective

Noah / Ernesto - How do we as a community address the tragedy of the commons?

References

Tragedy of the commons

Elinor Ostrom

David Bollier

Ernesto - Definition [of the Tragedy of the Commons]

Mihaela - What is the commons for us, for this community?

Gary – Cardano as a natural system

References

Thích Nhất Hạnh

Nassim Taleb

Mihaela - From our community there will be many spinoffs

Gary - Set an intention, take an action, let go

Dean - If we can enable people to build the bridges, they will build them.

References

BSD

Linux

Mihaela - [open-source] a good example of the Commons

Nori - There are things that have come before that we can learn from.

References

Slackware

Cathedral in the Bazaar

Encarta

Nick - Not everybody has that freedom of choice.

Ian - 10 principles of Burning Man

10 principles of Burning Man

Nori – Closing comments and feedback

Mihaela - co-creating the right questions.

Ernesto - David Bohm - “On Dialogue”

References

David Bohm